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	<title>Comments on: All together at once</title>
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	<description>Patricia C. Wrede talks about writing</description>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My writing in progress is something like a recipe. I (sometimes :) ) throw in the right things, a.k.a. plot, description, summary, etc., but I either mess up on the amounts or I forget to &quot;stir&quot; it all in. And then... well, *sometimes* I mess up on both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My writing in progress is something like a recipe. I (sometimes <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) throw in the right things, a.k.a. plot, description, summary, etc., but I either mess up on the amounts or I forget to &#8220;stir&#8221; it all in. And then&#8230; well, *sometimes* I mess up on both.</p>
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		<title>By: pcwrede</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/all-together-at-once/comment-page-1/#comment-1926</link>
		<dc:creator>pcwrede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana - One articulate, opinionated, plausible, noisy critic who happens to be wrong can wreck a story, if you pay attention to them. And it&#039;s hard not to pay attention, if they&#039;re articulate, plausible, etc., especially if you&#039;re not really sure what you&#039;re doing (which is usually the case for people who are just getting started, or for those who are doing something stretchy). It&#039;s why I keep jumping up and down about there not being a One True Way to write.

I like working with my Usual Suspects (beta/first/test readers), because since I&#039;ve known most of them for years, I can usually tell when they&#039;ve hit something that&#039;s a real problem vs. when it&#039;s more a matter of taste. That&#039;s hard to do with contest judges! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana &#8211; One articulate, opinionated, plausible, noisy critic who happens to be wrong can wreck a story, if you pay attention to them. And it&#8217;s hard not to pay attention, if they&#8217;re articulate, plausible, etc., especially if you&#8217;re not really sure what you&#8217;re doing (which is usually the case for people who are just getting started, or for those who are doing something stretchy). It&#8217;s why I keep jumping up and down about there not being a One True Way to write.</p>
<p>I like working with my Usual Suspects (beta/first/test readers), because since I&#8217;ve known most of them for years, I can usually tell when they&#8217;ve hit something that&#8217;s a real problem vs. when it&#8217;s more a matter of taste. That&#8217;s hard to do with contest judges! <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dana Sherwood</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/all-together-at-once/comment-page-1/#comment-1924</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the other week, I did something similar to what you described about combing bookshelves for examples. I&#039;d been worried that some of my more intense scenes were way over the top, so I wanted a yardstick. After I reread some particularly memorable passages from several books on my keeper shelves, I felt a lot better about what I&#039;d written. My style is completely different from theirs -- they write beautiful, descriptive, lyrical prose, and I, umm, *don&#039;t* -- but the scenes&#039; dramatic payloads were similar. 

I have to be careful not to fall into disembodied talking heads syndrome. :-) I write skeletal versions of the critical scenes first. At that point, it&#039;s virtually all dialogue with notes on stage direction, backstory, setting description, and character feelings/thoughts scribbled in the margins. I may not USE all those inputs when I flesh out the original draft, but they&#039;re available if I need them. 

I guess you could say I&#039;m more of a layering type. I&#039;ve had to learn to trust my instincts on how much setting description to add. Back when I was still entering RWA writing contests, I got a few criticisms that I wasn&#039;t describing the scenery thoroughly enough. In fact, one judge insisted that I spend at least one paragraph, preferably two, at the beginning of *every* scene detailing what the room looked like. This was a published author judge, too. 

So...I got all paranoid about that and started scraping the stuff on with a palette knife. I quickly discovered that it blew the pacing and messed with my voice. Although other contest judges (published, unpublished, editors, agents) had had no issue with the level of description in the original, I didn&#039;t want to be the kind of writer who only listens to praise and tunes out criticism. I went overboard, though. At any rate, I haven&#039;t done contests in years. Nowadays, I&#039;ve got great beta readers who tell me what is/is not working for them, and they don&#039;t try to muck around with my writing style. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the other week, I did something similar to what you described about combing bookshelves for examples. I&#8217;d been worried that some of my more intense scenes were way over the top, so I wanted a yardstick. After I reread some particularly memorable passages from several books on my keeper shelves, I felt a lot better about what I&#8217;d written. My style is completely different from theirs &#8212; they write beautiful, descriptive, lyrical prose, and I, umm, *don&#8217;t* &#8212; but the scenes&#8217; dramatic payloads were similar. </p>
<p>I have to be careful not to fall into disembodied talking heads syndrome. <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I write skeletal versions of the critical scenes first. At that point, it&#8217;s virtually all dialogue with notes on stage direction, backstory, setting description, and character feelings/thoughts scribbled in the margins. I may not USE all those inputs when I flesh out the original draft, but they&#8217;re available if I need them. </p>
<p>I guess you could say I&#8217;m more of a layering type. I&#8217;ve had to learn to trust my instincts on how much setting description to add. Back when I was still entering RWA writing contests, I got a few criticisms that I wasn&#8217;t describing the scenery thoroughly enough. In fact, one judge insisted that I spend at least one paragraph, preferably two, at the beginning of *every* scene detailing what the room looked like. This was a published author judge, too. </p>
<p>So&#8230;I got all paranoid about that and started scraping the stuff on with a palette knife. I quickly discovered that it blew the pacing and messed with my voice. Although other contest judges (published, unpublished, editors, agents) had had no issue with the level of description in the original, I didn&#8217;t want to be the kind of writer who only listens to praise and tunes out criticism. I went overboard, though. At any rate, I haven&#8217;t done contests in years. Nowadays, I&#8217;ve got great beta readers who tell me what is/is not working for them, and they don&#8217;t try to muck around with my writing style. <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Amanda C. Paige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda C. Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;ll have to go back and see how clunky my writing looks after reading this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll have to go back and see how clunky my writing looks after reading this post.</p>
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