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		<title>By: pcwrede</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/getting-it-right-the-second-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>pcwrede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>accio_aqualung - Who ever said writing was going to be easy? :)

But &quot;I&#039;m out of ideas&quot; is something you can deal with in a lot of ways besides &quot;write through the block.&quot; In fact, brainstorming and plot-noodling are probably much more efficient ways of handling that particular problem, because by the time you&#039;re that far into a book or story, you don&#039;t exactly &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; new ideas - you&#039;re building on what you&#039;ve already said and the things that have already happened.

And if you already have a complete draft, and you are &quot;out of ideas&quot; - is the problem perhaps that it&#039;s actually DONE? That it&#039;s time to move on to something completely NEW, and start submitting the one that&#039;s finished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>accio_aqualung &#8211; Who ever said writing was going to be easy? <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But &#8220;I&#8217;m out of ideas&#8221; is something you can deal with in a lot of ways besides &#8220;write through the block.&#8221; In fact, brainstorming and plot-noodling are probably much more efficient ways of handling that particular problem, because by the time you&#8217;re that far into a book or story, you don&#8217;t exactly <em>need</em> new ideas &#8211; you&#8217;re building on what you&#8217;ve already said and the things that have already happened.</p>
<p>And if you already have a complete draft, and you are &#8220;out of ideas&#8221; &#8211; is the problem perhaps that it&#8217;s actually DONE? That it&#8217;s time to move on to something completely NEW, and start submitting the one that&#8217;s finished?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/getting-it-right-the-second-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any time I&#039;m tempted to over-edit, I remember the book &lt;em&gt;Dorothea Dreams&lt;/em&gt; by Suzie McKee Charnas about an artist who gets more or less trapped into her own work by her perfectionism and I let go of the book at &quot;good enough&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any time I&#8217;m tempted to over-edit, I remember the book <em>Dorothea Dreams</em> by Suzie McKee Charnas about an artist who gets more or less trapped into her own work by her perfectionism and I let go of the book at &#8220;good enough&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: accio_aqualung</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/getting-it-right-the-second-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>accio_aqualung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray I inspired a blog post!

I&#039;ve finished a few drafts of this thing, which began as some sort of half-baked pseudo-fanfiction mesh way back in 7th grade. I worked on it on and off through high school and college, where 25 page papers on the roots of american slavery really killed the creativity, so I would stay involved by creating backstory, like geneologies and stuff. I&#039;m also deeply emotionally attached because it got me through high school. Some kids start cutting themselves to deal with problems; I wrote. Only in the past year or so have I really beaten into Real Novel shape and taken out the parts where I&#039;m figuring out life issues. Now, er, I don&#039;t really have an excuse besides &quot;I&#039;m out of ideas,&quot; to which you would reply, &quot;just write through the block.&quot; To which my response would most likely be a petulant whine and, &quot;But its HARD!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray I inspired a blog post!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve finished a few drafts of this thing, which began as some sort of half-baked pseudo-fanfiction mesh way back in 7th grade. I worked on it on and off through high school and college, where 25 page papers on the roots of american slavery really killed the creativity, so I would stay involved by creating backstory, like geneologies and stuff. I&#8217;m also deeply emotionally attached because it got me through high school. Some kids start cutting themselves to deal with problems; I wrote. Only in the past year or so have I really beaten into Real Novel shape and taken out the parts where I&#8217;m figuring out life issues. Now, er, I don&#8217;t really have an excuse besides &#8220;I&#8217;m out of ideas,&#8221; to which you would reply, &#8220;just write through the block.&#8221; To which my response would most likely be a petulant whine and, &#8220;But its HARD!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pcwrede</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/getting-it-right-the-second-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>pcwrede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>accio_aqualung - Are you revising as you write, or do you have a full draft that you&#039;re going over and over? Because if you&#039;ve been working for ten years, and you only have a third or a half of a book, then either you are normally a very, very slow writer, or you are only working when you feel like it (and you don&#039;t feel like it very often), or you are spending way too much time going over and over your old stuff and not producing new words. If it&#039;s the last one, NaNoWriMo may very well help; it can at least teach you that you CAN write without having to second-guess every word or revise everything to a high gloss polish before you move on. 

For everyday once November is over, if over-revising really is the problem, I suggest trying the thing where you simply refuse to allow yourself to do ANY revisions until you have a complete first draft. If it doesn&#039;t work, then you can try various other things to find a balance between the two extremes (constant revision while trying to move forward vs. no revising allowed until it&#039;s finished).

I think I&#039;m going to use the rest of your question for another blog post because I can get really long when I start talking about stuff like that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>accio_aqualung &#8211; Are you revising as you write, or do you have a full draft that you&#8217;re going over and over? Because if you&#8217;ve been working for ten years, and you only have a third or a half of a book, then either you are normally a very, very slow writer, or you are only working when you feel like it (and you don&#8217;t feel like it very often), or you are spending way too much time going over and over your old stuff and not producing new words. If it&#8217;s the last one, NaNoWriMo may very well help; it can at least teach you that you CAN write without having to second-guess every word or revise everything to a high gloss polish before you move on. </p>
<p>For everyday once November is over, if over-revising really is the problem, I suggest trying the thing where you simply refuse to allow yourself to do ANY revisions until you have a complete first draft. If it doesn&#8217;t work, then you can try various other things to find a balance between the two extremes (constant revision while trying to move forward vs. no revising allowed until it&#8217;s finished).</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m going to use the rest of your question for another blog post because I can get really long when I start talking about stuff like that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: accio_aqualung</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/getting-it-right-the-second-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>accio_aqualung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I fall into the over-edit category, as I&#039;ve been working on the same project for, oh golly, ten-ish years now (not straight through. on and off through school). This month, I&#039;m trying NaNoWriMo, which I&#039;m hoping will force the words out and the internal editor to take a back seat.

My question: So pretend you&#039;ve spent so much time on something that you&#039;ve got gobs and gobs of backstory and little trivial details, like the MC is  terminally left handed or her brother has to organize his pens in a very specific way or their uncle won the very first US Open. These things have nothing to do with the plot but add humanizing quirks to the characters that would make them so much more interesting in real life. How do you find the balance of details without hitting overload?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I fall into the over-edit category, as I&#8217;ve been working on the same project for, oh golly, ten-ish years now (not straight through. on and off through school). This month, I&#8217;m trying NaNoWriMo, which I&#8217;m hoping will force the words out and the internal editor to take a back seat.</p>
<p>My question: So pretend you&#8217;ve spent so much time on something that you&#8217;ve got gobs and gobs of backstory and little trivial details, like the MC is  terminally left handed or her brother has to organize his pens in a very specific way or their uncle won the very first US Open. These things have nothing to do with the plot but add humanizing quirks to the characters that would make them so much more interesting in real life. How do you find the balance of details without hitting overload?</p>
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