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	<description>Patricia C. Wrede talks about writing</description>
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		<title>By: Gene Wirchenko</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-13936</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Wirchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 05:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That dictionary is rather longer than I expected.  And here I thought that Ms. Wrede was a bit heavy on the slang in the Mairelon stories.  She could have larded it on even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dictionary is rather longer than I expected.  And here I thought that Ms. Wrede was a bit heavy on the slang in the Mairelon stories.  She could have larded it on even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Livia Blackburne</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6639</link>
		<dc:creator>Livia Blackburne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just revisiting this post because my editor suggested looking into more historical language.  One trick -- the 1811 dictionary of the vulgar tongue is on project gutenberg, and you can kind of do a reverse dictionary by using the find function on an electronic copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just revisiting this post because my editor suggested looking into more historical language.  One trick &#8212; the 1811 dictionary of the vulgar tongue is on project gutenberg, and you can kind of do a reverse dictionary by using the find function on an electronic copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaenii (J.M. Ney-Grimm)</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaenii (J.M. Ney-Grimm)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 02:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write in a fantasy world of my creation, but I find I do a fair amount of research. One of the characters in my first novel was learning to be an herbalist, so I ended up reading on aromatherapy (which seemed to be closest to what she was doing). I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll continue with similar research when a character is doing something about which I don&#039;t know enough.

The other issue is just the one described by green_knight. Everything in a world seems to be connected to everything else. How can I be sure my creation hangs together? What I tend to do is compare the bit I&#039;m wondering about to a bit in our real world that is similar. (I&#039;ve researched the history of mining, as well as that of medicine and other topics.) And then I work out what is different and how the differences would make certain parts of my fantasy bit different. (Not sure I&#039;m making sense.) And I &quot;translate,&quot; since the words used by my fantasy cultures tend to be different from modern terms.

No complaints from my readers thus far, but I&#039;m new at this! I suspect that if a certified aromatherapist ever happens to read Troll-magic, she&#039;ll find errors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write in a fantasy world of my creation, but I find I do a fair amount of research. One of the characters in my first novel was learning to be an herbalist, so I ended up reading on aromatherapy (which seemed to be closest to what she was doing). I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll continue with similar research when a character is doing something about which I don&#8217;t know enough.</p>
<p>The other issue is just the one described by green_knight. Everything in a world seems to be connected to everything else. How can I be sure my creation hangs together? What I tend to do is compare the bit I&#8217;m wondering about to a bit in our real world that is similar. (I&#8217;ve researched the history of mining, as well as that of medicine and other topics.) And then I work out what is different and how the differences would make certain parts of my fantasy bit different. (Not sure I&#8217;m making sense.) And I &#8220;translate,&#8221; since the words used by my fantasy cultures tend to be different from modern terms.</p>
<p>No complaints from my readers thus far, but I&#8217;m new at this! I suspect that if a certified aromatherapist ever happens to read Troll-magic, she&#8217;ll find errors!</p>
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		<title>By: LizV</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6384</link>
		<dc:creator>LizV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The interesting thing is that it’s often present day settings that the writer has to be most careful about,&lt;/i&gt;

So, so painfully true!

I notice you left out the part about hours or even days being sucked away as you wander off on some only tangentially-related but *utterly fascinating* subject.  Or do you have some magical means of avoiding that? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The interesting thing is that it’s often present day settings that the writer has to be most careful about,</i></p>
<p>So, so painfully true!</p>
<p>I notice you left out the part about hours or even days being sucked away as you wander off on some only tangentially-related but *utterly fascinating* subject.  Or do you have some magical means of avoiding that? <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tiana Smith</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiana Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never tried writing a book with slang, because I know it would be difficult for me at this point with my writing ability. You did a great job of that with the Mairelon books. Her slang cracked me up. I remember something about polishing the King&#039;s iron with their eyebrows being particularly funny to me :) 

Right now I&#039;m looking into period dresses, since I want to borrow some specific dress styles for my own fantasy world. It&#039;s turning out to be more interesting than I thought it would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never tried writing a book with slang, because I know it would be difficult for me at this point with my writing ability. You did a great job of that with the Mairelon books. Her slang cracked me up. I remember something about polishing the King&#8217;s iron with their eyebrows being particularly funny to me <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m looking into period dresses, since I want to borrow some specific dress styles for my own fantasy world. It&#8217;s turning out to be more interesting than I thought it would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley Munro</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6310</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice. It&#039;s also useful to use the less is more concept in some cases, because it&#039;s the extra details that will trip you up. Writers should also take care to use just enough background research to season the story. Think of salt and pepper. A sprinkle is sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice. It&#8217;s also useful to use the less is more concept in some cases, because it&#8217;s the extra details that will trip you up. Writers should also take care to use just enough background research to season the story. Think of salt and pepper. A sprinkle is sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: green_knight</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6258</link>
		<dc:creator>green_knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a book with a real-world setting, whether historical or modern, will usually require a lot more research than one where the author is making up the background from whole cloth&lt;/i&gt;

I find it the opposite. A historical setting has usually been examined and described by more than one someone and all you need to do is work your way through the reference books.

When you make up a world, it has to be plausible and you&#039;re forever balancing between what resources your world has and what your characters would have made of them. And some of those choices are logical (if you have timber and clay you are likely to get timberframe buildings, but moments later you&#039;re thinking about towns and fire risks and local stone and building techniques and not only do you not have the ability to simply look things up on a geological map, you need to make sure that the landscape your character walks through matches the inn he&#039;ll rest in at the end of the day. 

And *then* you need to ask what your culture would have made of the resources and whether their magic or religion or social customs would make a difference. (When you get the whole household and all their dependants eating together, you need a large central room they all fit into, and then you need the timber to construct such houses and the requisite tables. Etc etc.)

From where I&#039;m sitting, that looks like more work. I&#039;m lucky that I have a lot of that knowledge at hand, but there&#039;s a lot of thinking about consequences involved. And of course you can just borrow a historical region, but to me, that feels like a cheap way out, because the historical setting evolved _in history_ and doesn&#039;t take well to being grafted upon a fantasy setting. Most of them don&#039;t take and wither away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a book with a real-world setting, whether historical or modern, will usually require a lot more research than one where the author is making up the background from whole cloth</i></p>
<p>I find it the opposite. A historical setting has usually been examined and described by more than one someone and all you need to do is work your way through the reference books.</p>
<p>When you make up a world, it has to be plausible and you&#8217;re forever balancing between what resources your world has and what your characters would have made of them. And some of those choices are logical (if you have timber and clay you are likely to get timberframe buildings, but moments later you&#8217;re thinking about towns and fire risks and local stone and building techniques and not only do you not have the ability to simply look things up on a geological map, you need to make sure that the landscape your character walks through matches the inn he&#8217;ll rest in at the end of the day. </p>
<p>And *then* you need to ask what your culture would have made of the resources and whether their magic or religion or social customs would make a difference. (When you get the whole household and all their dependants eating together, you need a large central room they all fit into, and then you need the timber to construct such houses and the requisite tables. Etc etc.)</p>
<p>From where I&#8217;m sitting, that looks like more work. I&#8217;m lucky that I have a lot of that knowledge at hand, but there&#8217;s a lot of thinking about consequences involved. And of course you can just borrow a historical region, but to me, that feels like a cheap way out, because the historical setting evolved _in history_ and doesn&#8217;t take well to being grafted upon a fantasy setting. Most of them don&#8217;t take and wither away.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/specific-research/comment-page-1/#comment-6257</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slang Through the Ages by Jonathon Green is a really cool book (picked up a copy at my University Library) because it is a reverse dictionary, where you look up Money or Sex and then find the slang words referring to those things, their period of use and their uses.  Tamora Pierce mentioned she used it and I had to go and dig it up.  Even if you&#039;re not researching, it&#039;s a pretty hilarious read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slang Through the Ages by Jonathon Green is a really cool book (picked up a copy at my University Library) because it is a reverse dictionary, where you look up Money or Sex and then find the slang words referring to those things, their period of use and their uses.  Tamora Pierce mentioned she used it and I had to go and dig it up.  Even if you&#8217;re not researching, it&#8217;s a pretty hilarious read.</p>
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