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	<title>Comments on: What is right?</title>
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	<description>Patricia C. Wrede talks about writing</description>
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		<title>By: John Richard Albers</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-17825</link>
		<dc:creator>John Richard Albers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think right is a subjective term when it comes to writing, so I go with it by saying that what I want to do as an aspiring novelist is write books which meet my own ludicrously high standards in fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think right is a subjective term when it comes to writing, so I go with it by saying that what I want to do as an aspiring novelist is write books which meet my own ludicrously high standards in fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: LizV</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-6879</link>
		<dc:creator>LizV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it&#039;s working fine now.  Thanks, and kudos to your web person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s working fine now.  Thanks, and kudos to your web person!</p>
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		<title>By: pcwrede</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-6813</link>
		<dc:creator>pcwrede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LizV- It should be fixed now.</description>
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		<title>By: LizV</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-6796</link>
		<dc:creator>LizV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I was unclear; yes, the monthly Archives links work just fine, if one&#039;s doing a calendar-based read.  It&#039;s reading by topic (all posts tagged &quot;process&quot;, for example) that seems to be limited to 10, even though hovering over the tag says there&#039;s 34.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I was unclear; yes, the monthly Archives links work just fine, if one&#8217;s doing a calendar-based read.  It&#8217;s reading by topic (all posts tagged &#8220;process&#8221;, for example) that seems to be limited to 10, even though hovering over the tag says there&#8217;s 34.</p>
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		<title>By: pcwrede</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-6794</link>
		<dc:creator>pcwrede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LizV - if you click on one of the months under &quot;Archives,&quot; it&#039;ll list the posts for that month, and if there are any posts that aren&#039;t showing, you can get at them from the calendar. I&#039;ll have to check on the tags; fortunately, my web person comes this afternoon.

Dorothy: Nice to see you again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LizV &#8211; if you click on one of the months under &#8220;Archives,&#8221; it&#8217;ll list the posts for that month, and if there are any posts that aren&#8217;t showing, you can get at them from the calendar. I&#8217;ll have to check on the tags; fortunately, my web person comes this afternoon.</p>
<p>Dorothy: Nice to see you again!</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Heydt</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-6767</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothy Heydt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 05:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolkien gave his own definition of &quot;a really good book.&quot;

He said, &quot;The prime motive was the desire of a tale-teller to try his hand at a really long story that would hold the attention of readers, amuse them, delight them, and at times maybe excite them or deeply move them.&quot;

LizV, there&#039;s an orange &quot;Archive&quot; list to the right of the text.  I *think* that leads to the older posts; haven&#039;t tried it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tolkien gave his own definition of &#8220;a really good book.&#8221;</p>
<p>He said, &#8220;The prime motive was the desire of a tale-teller to try his hand at a really long story that would hold the attention of readers, amuse them, delight them, and at times maybe excite them or deeply move them.&#8221;</p>
<p>LizV, there&#8217;s an orange &#8220;Archive&#8221; list to the right of the text.  I *think* that leads to the older posts; haven&#8217;t tried it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: LizV</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/what-is-right/comment-page-1/#comment-6751</link>
		<dc:creator>LizV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT: I was browsing the archives (what, me procrastinate?) and noticed that only the 10 most recent posts under any given tag are displaying.  If there&#039;s a way to get to the older posts, I&#039;m not seeing it.

I think this is a new phenomenon since the server move?  At least, I seem to remember being able to waste a lot more time -- er, that is, immerse myself in your writing wisdom for more extended periods -- by wandering about in the old posts previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: I was browsing the archives (what, me procrastinate?) and noticed that only the 10 most recent posts under any given tag are displaying.  If there&#8217;s a way to get to the older posts, I&#8217;m not seeing it.</p>
<p>I think this is a new phenomenon since the server move?  At least, I seem to remember being able to waste a lot more time &#8212; er, that is, immerse myself in your writing wisdom for more extended periods &#8212; by wandering about in the old posts previously.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are wise words.  Tracy Hickman wrote something similar in the late 80s, which I&#039;ve always boiled down to one statement: &quot;we should write the books we want to read.&quot;

In my own case, what I think makes a good book is flow.  If I am constantly jarred out of the book I can&#039;t read it; when it&#039;s good I don&#039;t notice the pages turning, it&#039;s more like watching a movie than reading.  That&#039;s what I shoot for in my own writing (&#039;Fortunes Rising&#039; http://tinyurl.com/792oqpd)

As I&#039;m a fantasy writer, the other part of my judgement is more philosophical.  I&#039;m tired of &#039;save the world/universe&#039; stories.  I see nothing wrong with adventure stories, and want to see more of them, so that&#039;s what I set out to write.  No worlds saved in the eleven novels I&#039;ve written so far.  I don&#039;t mind epic scale, but it has to BE EPIC to have an epic scale.  I think it&#039;s a bad choice for society at large as well; focussing on saving the world let&#039;s us off on saving our neighbors who need help that we can actually give.  A point, strangely enough, made by Amy Heckerling in &quot;Clueless.&quot;  You never know where the nuggets of wisdom might come from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are wise words.  Tracy Hickman wrote something similar in the late 80s, which I&#8217;ve always boiled down to one statement: &#8220;we should write the books we want to read.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my own case, what I think makes a good book is flow.  If I am constantly jarred out of the book I can&#8217;t read it; when it&#8217;s good I don&#8217;t notice the pages turning, it&#8217;s more like watching a movie than reading.  That&#8217;s what I shoot for in my own writing (&#8216;Fortunes Rising&#8217; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/792oqpd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/792oqpd</a>)</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m a fantasy writer, the other part of my judgement is more philosophical.  I&#8217;m tired of &#8216;save the world/universe&#8217; stories.  I see nothing wrong with adventure stories, and want to see more of them, so that&#8217;s what I set out to write.  No worlds saved in the eleven novels I&#8217;ve written so far.  I don&#8217;t mind epic scale, but it has to BE EPIC to have an epic scale.  I think it&#8217;s a bad choice for society at large as well; focussing on saving the world let&#8217;s us off on saving our neighbors who need help that we can actually give.  A point, strangely enough, made by Amy Heckerling in &#8220;Clueless.&#8221;  You never know where the nuggets of wisdom might come from.</p>
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		<title>By: ALIVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALIVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I whole-heartedly (resignedly) agree with your advice, and it comes at a very appropriate time.  I&#039;m a studio art major with an imminently ending semester, and your creative advice is very accurate.  I am going to commit mental energy to figuring out my tells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whole-heartedly (resignedly) agree with your advice, and it comes at a very appropriate time.  I&#8217;m a studio art major with an imminently ending semester, and your creative advice is very accurate.  I am going to commit mental energy to figuring out my tells.</p>
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		<title>By: David Harmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Zombie Plato rampages over the literary landscape, yet again.  ;-)  

The important thing here is to recognize that &quot;Good&quot; isn&#039;t just one thing.  And the question to ask is, &quot;good for &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt;?&quot;  For technonerds and other detail enthusiasts, who appreciate deep consistency and exploring implications of a change?  For socially-oriented readers, who are looking for character development and interpersonal tension?  For escapists, who want a relief from the unpleasantness of everyday reality?  For idealists, who hunger to see their worldview vindicated?

Yes, all those are simplifications, but the point remains -- different potential readers are looking for different things in their books.  You can&#039;t please them all, and if you try you&#039;ll please nobody.  What you can do, is try to please some particular group of people... &lt;i&gt;usually&lt;/i&gt;, one of the groups that includes the author!

In general, if a book isn&#039;t good for the &lt;i&gt;author&lt;/i&gt;, they won&#039;t have the investment needed for their craft.  And yet, there are exceptions... consider Piers Anthony&#039;s Xanth series, where the author got tired of the conceit long before the readers did, but he still knew how to churn them out.  So I&#039;d say &quot;pleasing the author&quot; is secondary to &quot;pleasing &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; group of readers&quot;, and the choice of group will shape the character of the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Zombie Plato rampages over the literary landscape, yet again.  <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>The important thing here is to recognize that &#8220;Good&#8221; isn&#8217;t just one thing.  And the question to ask is, &#8220;good for <i>whom</i>?&#8221;  For technonerds and other detail enthusiasts, who appreciate deep consistency and exploring implications of a change?  For socially-oriented readers, who are looking for character development and interpersonal tension?  For escapists, who want a relief from the unpleasantness of everyday reality?  For idealists, who hunger to see their worldview vindicated?</p>
<p>Yes, all those are simplifications, but the point remains &#8212; different potential readers are looking for different things in their books.  You can&#8217;t please them all, and if you try you&#8217;ll please nobody.  What you can do, is try to please some particular group of people&#8230; <i>usually</i>, one of the groups that includes the author!</p>
<p>In general, if a book isn&#8217;t good for the <i>author</i>, they won&#8217;t have the investment needed for their craft.  And yet, there are exceptions&#8230; consider Piers Anthony&#8217;s Xanth series, where the author got tired of the conceit long before the readers did, but he still knew how to churn them out.  So I&#8217;d say &#8220;pleasing the author&#8221; is secondary to &#8220;pleasing <i>some</i> group of readers&#8221;, and the choice of group will shape the character of the book.</p>
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