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		<title>By: Michelle Bottorff</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/where-do-you-get-your-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Bottorff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having trouble just getting my head around the concept that action in a book is made up of idealettes.  I think that after diligent pondering,  I can sort of maybe grasp it.  In which case, I can only say that I go shopping for plot development ideas very differently than I do starting story ideas.

It&#039;s like my starting ideas I don&#039;t actually shop for at all.  I&#039;m wandering down the street and I see something in a store window, and I can&#039;t resist it, so I buy it even though I have no clue what I&#039;m going to use it for yet.  

But then one day I&#039;m strolling along and I see something that would go just perfectly with one of the other things I own, if only I had x, y and z to go with them both, so then I head out looking for x, y and z.  Finding x, y and z is both harder and easier.  Easier, because you know what you are looking for, and harder because, well, you know what you are looking for -- it&#039;s no longer a case where any random cool item will do.  So you have to diligently hunt for x, y and z, where you merely had to recognize as something worth having the initial starting ideas.

So I guess I see three potential weak points a writer could have that might need work.  There&#039;s recognizing good ideas when they wander across them, there&#039;s realizing what else is needed to make those starting ideas  work as actual stories, and then there is hunting up the missing elements.   

Except that this isn&#039;t how I usually think about it at all.

I usually think of developing a plot as building the story proper out of the story stuff I already have in my starting idea.  I know I end up with a lot more than what I started with, but it hardly ever feels to me like I&#039;m going out and getting something new.  It&#039;s more like when I need something more,  I just look deeper into what I have, and the deeper I look, the more stuff is already there just waiting for me to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble just getting my head around the concept that action in a book is made up of idealettes.  I think that after diligent pondering,  I can sort of maybe grasp it.  In which case, I can only say that I go shopping for plot development ideas very differently than I do starting story ideas.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like my starting ideas I don&#8217;t actually shop for at all.  I&#8217;m wandering down the street and I see something in a store window, and I can&#8217;t resist it, so I buy it even though I have no clue what I&#8217;m going to use it for yet.  </p>
<p>But then one day I&#8217;m strolling along and I see something that would go just perfectly with one of the other things I own, if only I had x, y and z to go with them both, so then I head out looking for x, y and z.  Finding x, y and z is both harder and easier.  Easier, because you know what you are looking for, and harder because, well, you know what you are looking for &#8212; it&#8217;s no longer a case where any random cool item will do.  So you have to diligently hunt for x, y and z, where you merely had to recognize as something worth having the initial starting ideas.</p>
<p>So I guess I see three potential weak points a writer could have that might need work.  There&#8217;s recognizing good ideas when they wander across them, there&#8217;s realizing what else is needed to make those starting ideas  work as actual stories, and then there is hunting up the missing elements.   </p>
<p>Except that this isn&#8217;t how I usually think about it at all.</p>
<p>I usually think of developing a plot as building the story proper out of the story stuff I already have in my starting idea.  I know I end up with a lot more than what I started with, but it hardly ever feels to me like I&#8217;m going out and getting something new.  It&#8217;s more like when I need something more,  I just look deeper into what I have, and the deeper I look, the more stuff is already there just waiting for me to find.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicory</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/where-do-you-get-your-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idealetts!  Ilse that&#039;s a great word.  I&#039;ll have to remember it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idealetts!  Ilse that&#8217;s a great word.  I&#8217;ll have to remember it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/where-do-you-get-your-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1470</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Ilse - the big idea is great and I have great internal ideas, but my biggest current challenge is getting enough action going through idealettes (love the term!) without getting melodramatic or cliche.

Not worrying too much about it right now, however - getting it right will happen in the edit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Ilse &#8211; the big idea is great and I have great internal ideas, but my biggest current challenge is getting enough action going through idealettes (love the term!) without getting melodramatic or cliche.</p>
<p>Not worrying too much about it right now, however &#8211; getting it right will happen in the edit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilse</title>
		<link>http://pcwrede.com/blog/where-do-you-get-your-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1469</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the difficult part isn&#039;t coming up with an idea to start with, it is continually coming up with idealettes that keep the story interesting, i.e. Ok, so you&#039;ve got a diplomat trying to get his stomach accustomed to stuff...now what? You have to come up with ideas for things like what sort of aliens these are, why he decided to be an extra-terrestrial diplomat, what he has to avoid doing lest he terribly offend these aliens, plus things like how they react when he does offend them and then, of course, the idea for how to tie this whole mess into a coherent story, that either has a point or is gosh-darned entertaining or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the difficult part isn&#8217;t coming up with an idea to start with, it is continually coming up with idealettes that keep the story interesting, i.e. Ok, so you&#8217;ve got a diplomat trying to get his stomach accustomed to stuff&#8230;now what? You have to come up with ideas for things like what sort of aliens these are, why he decided to be an extra-terrestrial diplomat, what he has to avoid doing lest he terribly offend these aliens, plus things like how they react when he does offend them and then, of course, the idea for how to tie this whole mess into a coherent story, that either has a point or is gosh-darned entertaining or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elfish inlaws over for dinner.  Now that is a great idea. :)  I love you observations in this post.  I know exactly what you mean about the way a person&#039;s mind goes blank when they try to think too hard about something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elfish inlaws over for dinner.  Now that is a great idea. <img src='http://pcwrede.com/blog/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I love you observations in this post.  I know exactly what you mean about the way a person&#8217;s mind goes blank when they try to think too hard about something.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are the times that one isn&#039;t even intending to look slant-wise, but does so anyway.  When, for example, one imagines a person crouched on a roof, but the reasons the person is crouched on the roof cannot possibly be ordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are the times that one isn&#8217;t even intending to look slant-wise, but does so anyway.  When, for example, one imagines a person crouched on a roof, but the reasons the person is crouched on the roof cannot possibly be ordinary.</p>
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